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Equipment & Sails for Sale / High Wind Backstay kit
« Last post by Jeff Kloppel on July 08, 2024, 06:56:09 PM »
Hello, I have a high wind kit that came with hull #153 that I bought last summer. I’m not planning on using it and wanted to see if anyone else is interested in it. I don’t know what they cost new so make a reasonable offer. Thanks
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U20 Boat Maintenance & Care / Re: Cockpit Hatch
« Last post by Steve Shaw on July 05, 2024, 12:18:06 AM »
Not silicone.  Stick (pun intended) with an adhesive sealant like a Sika or 3M 4000, 4200 or Loctite PL Marine.
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U20 Boat Maintenance & Care / Cockpit Hatch
« Last post by Mike Silverton on July 04, 2024, 10:52:36 PM »
I am installing a new cockpit hatch.  I've read two different bits of advice in the forums.  Seal it with silicone and seal it with Sikaflex.  What is the recommended product?

Thanks, Mike
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U20 Regattas - Where, When & Who's Going! / Re: LBRW
« Last post by Steve Shaw on June 24, 2024, 09:13:29 PM »
Anyone on the fence about if this is a good regatta or not just check out these photos from this past weekend at Ullman Sails Long Beach Race Week.  Paste this into your browser.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/195842591@N03/albums/72177720318150293/with/53811792444
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U20 General Discussion / Re: PHRF Rating Hit for Nonstandard Bowsprit
« Last post by Glenn VanHeel on June 22, 2024, 07:07:27 PM »
138 here in so. Cal.
Consider yourselves lucky!
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U20 General Discussion / Re: PHRF Rating Hit for Nonstandard Bowsprit
« Last post by Ryan Ericson on June 21, 2024, 03:43:33 AM »
Steve,

Thank you for the comments and reassurance on the rating, there is not a ODR rating here. I was mostly surprised that the standard rating did not include the stock bowsprit and the fact that Bob's rating from the same PHRF fleet was different. Chief Handicapper reconsidered the rating he looked at ORC rated U20s with 13.2 as the JC. I now rate 162.

We will see how we do this Saturday racing against J/70s and Martin 242s in 10-15kts.

Kind Regards,

Ryan
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U20 General Discussion / Re: PHRF Rating Hit for Nonstandard Bowsprit
« Last post by Steve Shaw on June 20, 2024, 04:13:42 PM »
As someone on a PHRF board, I can say that they are correct in taking the SPL and multiplying by 1.8 to get the SMG per PHRF rules.
Yes, the benefit to having a ODR (One Design Rating) can be beneficial when it comes to certain class rules.
If you want to race open PHRF, then you can get a larger spinnaker.  Not only can the girth be bigger, but the luff can be longer also (the real benefit).
Be aware, you have a gift right now as it is.  U20's sail with a 141 PHRF ODR here and still win just about every race on Lake Norman.
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U20 General Discussion / PHRF Rating Hit for Nonstandard Bowsprit
« Last post by Ryan Ericson on June 19, 2024, 10:12:47 PM »
I just received my PHRF rating certificate for PHRF-NW. Bob Aman had #71 registered in 2021 with 159 (the standard in PHRF-NW is 156). I received a 154 as the handicapper determined I had a nonstandard spin pole/bow sprit which increased the SMG from 17' 8"  to 23' 7". The handicapper used 12.79' as the standard bowsprit length which is the same number as the JSP in Figure 7 on page 18 of the class rules. I almost used the Class Rules JSP, however trying to be honest, as the definition of bowsprit length is the measurement of mast face to spinnaker tack point I used 13.12' which was based on Figure 1 on page 12 and rule 9.1:

Mast face to stem + stem to tack point on bowsprit (tack point is 1" back from the end of #71's bowsprit)

87.5 (Figure 1) + 70" (1" back from full extension) = 13.12'

Is the JSP number in the class rules in correct? Is this a legacy from when the boat come with Symmetrical or Asymmetrical spinnakers?

I reverse engineered the JSP number. It appears to be J dimension + 70" or 83.5" (6' 9.5") + 70" = 153.5/12 = 12.79'. The issue here is the the J dimension is the mast face to forestay attachment location which is about 4" inboard from the stem.

Adding 4" to 153.5 is 157.5/12 = 13.125'

Has anyone had similar issues or is this why OD racing is superior?

Kind Regards,

Ryan
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U20 General Discussion / Re: Outboard HP size and bracket max weight
« Last post by Ryan Ericson on June 15, 2024, 08:31:56 PM »
Travis,

Thank you for the quick reply.That is good information that those in SF use the Honda 2.3., I was looking at the Suzuki 2.5 for the weight vs a 3.5hp and hoping it would be sufficient. The 3.5s made by Tohatsu, are 41 ponds but the 4hp are 52-60 and that seems like a lot on the transom.

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U20 General Discussion / Re: Ullman Sails Tuning Guide 2024
« Last post by Travis Gregory on June 15, 2024, 06:28:57 PM »
Thanks for putting this together Steve.

Now on the Class Website Here.
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