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Robert Homer

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Delta Ditch Run
« on: May 03, 2019, 05:02:00 AM »
Has anyone participated in the Delta Ditch Run?

What were you required to bring as far as safety items?

Motor, anchor, flares, life ring...

Trying to make sure we don’t get sent home.

https://yra.org/yra-racing/safety-requirements/


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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2019, 08:47:50 PM »
I would recommend PM'ing Phil, Donna and Mike from the Bay Area for guidance.

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 11:27:47 AM »
Thanks Travis! I spoke with the organizers and got it figured out.

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2019, 03:44:16 AM »
I've raced this several times and can answer questions.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2019, 01:12:28 PM by davidkrausz »

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2019, 09:56:11 PM »
Most important "safety gear" is a good map of the Delta and the marks.  Late in the day and perhaps late at night, you will need to reference your position in the Delta related to the navigation marks.  Also, will need lights on the boat and a flashlight to light up the banks of the river (and the marks) as you jibe back and forth.

I'm planning on doing the DDR this June as well so hope you can make it...always good to have a few U20s in the race.


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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2019, 09:10:08 PM »
@David- Thanks! I’ll pm you with a few questions regarding your past experience running the race.
@Mike- I purchased a chart book of the delta and will be running gps as well. I have several battery powered LED lights and a good spot light so we should be good. I’m a bit concerned about accidentally going through “restricted” areas and getting disqualified. I don’t see any other U20s registered? See you on race day hopefully!

@David and Mike - what are your thoughts about bringing the outboard motor? The three of us on my boat are all 200+ pounders so added weight is going to hurt. I heard last year wind was light and a motor was well worth it.

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2019, 01:44:29 AM »
Bring your engine unless u want to spend the night in the delta as the wind dies quickly and the ebb current will be on after 7 pm.  I guess the trade off is less beer on ice!  I’ll be signing up soon and glad to see another U20.  Three more and we get a division!   

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2019, 01:54:39 AM »
I noticed you registered with a PHRF of 141.  Will u be running a larger spinnaker compared to the class spinnaker? If so, the 141 applies.  With all class sails, the northern CA PHRF is 144. 
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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2019, 07:06:49 AM »
Thanks for the heads up, I’m super green!
I’ll change it to 144.
 We’re 138 in So Cal, why the difference?

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2019, 07:10:20 AM »
Glenn VanHeel is in SoCal as well, maybe someone can entice him to go and we’ll only need two more!

Ok, definitely bringing the motor. Hard to find a secure spot to tie it down in the cabin without it jumping around on the road.

Lowered the mast today so almost ready.

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2019, 02:17:15 AM »
-I have a .pdf file with all the charts you need and a route with helpful hints I've mapped out. PM me your email and I will send it to you.
-A big help:  Don't cut corners.  The delta can be extremely shallow outside of the channel.  You can go from 40ft to 4 ft in a couple of boat lengths.  The very experienced boats know where they can cut corners. You will likely see several boats aground.  And the tide is usually falling for the 4th quarter of the day so you will have a very long night if you go aground.  If you have another boat ahead of you that is cutting corners (usually a Moore 24 or Express 24), then you can follow them.
-It's annoying but there are many, many boats that grossly violate the restricted areas at Port Chicago and are never protested. 1500ft is a very long way and I'd guess that 75% of the boats violate this restriction.  Some by 1400ft.
-I put the motor in a large plastic 'under the bed' container you can get from WalMart and lash it to the pole under the mast.  If the wind is forecasted to blow 15+knts, lash it under the cockpit to keep the bow light so you can get on a plane faster.
-PHRF ratings are judged locally.  It is 144 in most places.  In Lake Michigan it's an awesome 159.  I think 144 is generally fair, depending on the breeze.   The Delta Ditch does not favor the U20 because there is so much dead-down-wind sailing. If you get favorable breeze, I think you can be competitive. It's a great time to improve your deep downwind sailing skills and learn some tricks for sailing low. Either way, it's hours of downwind sailing.
-There are lots of logistic involved with non-sailing stuff:  getting the boat back, getting your trailer to Sacramento (assuming you are not sailing back... which is miserable), ramp vs. hoist pull-out, camping, etc.  Let me know if you need help. 
-It's a very long day. Very long.  Bring beer and food. Also bring a good attitude.  It can be an exhilarating blast but if the wind is light and you are in hour 8+, it becomes tiring.  Either way, it's a great experience.
 

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2019, 04:27:29 AM »
Great info David! I just sent you a pm.

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2019, 12:35:21 PM »
Just saw your entry Michael! See you there👍🏻

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2019, 03:06:01 PM »
For U20s this is the equivalent (and cheaper) than race to Alaska.   With two boats registered need only 3 more for a division!   Winds are predicted to be stronger this year than last so consider signing up.

http://www.pressure-drop.us/forums/showthread.php?5364-The-Ditch-Beckons

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Re: Delta Ditch Run
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2019, 03:17:21 AM »
The DDR is not really a sport boat regatta as normally Moores and Express 27 symmetrical rigs are an advantage in the narrow channels of the Delta, especially as you get close to Stockton.  While this year was no different for the Moores (one of which was the overall winner), at least it gave the sportboats a good opportunity to lead well into the race. 

Winds in San Pablo and Suisun Bays were 10-20 during the day and with the flood tide allowed GPS speeds of 9-12 knots on long runs.  Once in the Delta, the winds were 5-10 and allowed for long spinnaker runs even in the famous S channels.  Overall 70 miles in 8 hours, 7.5 corrected.

Hope more U20s can join us next year.